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 Posted 4/18/2012 1:19:39 PM
 

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So my dog is 4 years old and very experienced, I force fetched him a few years back and would shock him every time he shook his head with a bird or bumper in his mouth. Just recently he has started to chomp (bite down on) birds. I'm not sure how to solve this, but I am open for suggestions, I don't want him in the habit of chewing up birds, especially with field trials and hunt tests coming up.

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 Posted 4/19/2012 8:46:19 AM
 

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Is he chomping as in trying to eat the bird or locking his mouth shut (freezing) when you try to take the bird from his mouth?
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 Posted 4/19/2012 11:06:53 AM
 

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He's just chomping as he runs in, he gives it up fine, but as he's running in he is opening and closing hard on it and delivers it a little torn up.

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 Posted 4/22/2012 10:53:31 AM
 

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Anyone?

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 Posted 4/22/2012 7:59:31 PM
 

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Is this just a problem with birds or dummies too?  

Just an aside, I wouldn't use the collar on your dog until you get this figured out.  I'm a bit troubled by the shocking him for shaking his head....that's using the collar as a punishment device and the dog may have along the way "figured out" that if he is chomping the bird (can't shake the head while chomping the bird) the shock doesn't come.  So you may have, without knowing it, trained him to do this.  Now the key is to untrain that action.


So, let us know about dummies vs. birds and we'll go from there.

Kg

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 Posted 4/22/2012 8:54:18 PM
 

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I was taught to shock him when he shook his head with a bird in his mouth, how did that teach him something wrong? He chomps on bumpers as well but obviously, it doesn't hurt the bumpers, i can just see him chomping on them. 

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 Posted 4/23/2012 8:15:52 AM
 

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I explained it in my last post. Go back and read it and let me know if I need to explain it further.  

 If you were taught to shock a dog for doing something you don't like, you were taught wrong.  Sorry.  The shock should come to reinforce a command you have taught the dog.  If you haven't taught the dog not to shake it's head, don't light it up when it shakes its head.  

If it's chomping dummies, then it's a mouthing problem and not just a bird problem.  

Let me know if my explanation makes sense from before and then we can start fixing the problem.

We'll get it fixed.

Kg

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 Posted 4/23/2012 8:24:26 AM
 

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I explained it in my last post. Go back and read it and let me know if I need to explain it further.  

 If you were taught to shock a dog for doing something you don't like, you were taught wrong.  Sorry.  The shock should come to reinforce a command you have taught the dog.  If you haven't taught the dog not to shake it's head, don't light it up when it shakes its head.  

If it's chomping dummies, then it's a mouthing problem and not just a bird problem.  

Let me know if my explanation makes sense from before and then we can start fixing the problem.

We'll get it fixed.

Kg

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